09 September 2009

Joint Session drinking game/liveblog

good points so far ...

Really liked "determined to be the last president to address this".

Gallstones he didnt' know about - just eliminate the phrase "preexisting condition" from the fucking dictionary, would you?

No-one should be treated that way in the USA - fucking well right!

numbers - I like numbers, but you're going to confuse the republicans. The only numbers they understand are dollar signs, and only when preceded by "pay to the order of" and their name.

SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM - light applause. End employer based systems and let people buy it on their own: fuckall applause.

"There are arguments to be made for both these approaches" - yes, and some of the arguments are made up of bullshit and WAAAAH I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES WAAAAAAH which when I think about it is quintessentially American, isn't it?

"Time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action." Good lines. Back it the FUCK UP.

Three basic goals - security and stability to those with insurance - provide insurance for those without - slow the growth of health care costs for families, businesses, and govt. Middle one is the super-important one I feel, with a close second being the first.

"Nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. REPEATED." - Will make your insurance work better for you - against the law to deny coverage due to preexisting condition FUCK YEAH BABY! and I'll settle for THAT.

Illegal to drop your coverage or water it down when you become sick - I will also take that. No caps on amount of coverage - place a limit on how much you can be charged - (make that limit seven dollars and I'll be good thx)

required to cover routine checkups, colonoscopies, mammograms, preventative care - makes sense, saves money and lives - I like the one guy who keeps sitting on nails

if you DON'T have health care now - if you lose, change your job - coverage - if you start a small busines - coverage - insurance exchange to shop at competitive prices - see, that's bullshit because there are SEVEN companies, and they need to be prohibited getting together and agreeing on "well we'll go no lower than $fuckassexpensive.32

tax credits for small businesses - all companies who want access to these people have to abide by rules - in four years - can't get insurance today - immediate low-cost coverage if you become seriously ill - props to Sen. McCain and that it was his idea in the campaign.

May be those who want to take the risk and not have coverage - may be companies who refuse to cover their workers - costs the rest of us money - individuals will be required to carry basic health insurance just as states require you to carry basic auto insurance - businesses either offer health care or chip in to the cost - most small businesses exempt from requirements - can't have people gaming the system

only works if everyone plays - significant details to be ironed out (laugh)

broad consensus for all the above (really? You sure?)

Key controversies still out there: bogus claims of death panels. "It is a lie, plain and simple." OMG THE WORD LIE HOW DARE HE CALL DEFENSELESS SARAH PALIN A LIAR WHY DOES HE HATE TRIG

insure illegal immigrants - false (although it shouldn't be) - EDIT: that guy shouted "You lie!"

no federal dollars used to fund abortions (although they should not be excluded)

publicly sponsored insurance option - guiding principle is and always has been that choice and competition allow consumers to do better (and the republicans applaud that line) - in 34 states, 75% of the market is controlled by five or fewer companies.

"Insurance executives don't do this because they're bad people" Are you SURE ABOUT THAT, BARACK OBAMA?

"No interest in putting insurance companies out of business" Why not? "I just want to hold them accountable" (oh wow, the re pube lick ans liked that too)

making a not-for-profit public option FUCK YEAH BABY!

only an option for those without insurance - less than 5% would sign up (really? hmm.)

taxpayers not subsidising this option - have to be self-sufficient and rely on premiums.

Relating private v. public universities - why do private universities succeed by costing 1000 per cent more?

should not be exaggerated - it is only one part of the plan -

co-op or another non-profit entity - there MUST. BE. A. CHOICE.

not sign a plan that adds to our deficit - fair enough, but pull us out of the middle east first to ease that option - spending cuts if the savings don't materialise - too many initiatives were unpaid for - tax breaks for rich and iraq war included - cut to stock shot of republicans sitting there with hats on that say "I'm a dickhole"

speaking directly to seniors - SPEAK UP!

not a dollar of Medicare will be used to pay for this plan - the only thing this plan eliminates is the $100bns to pad profits but don't improve care - doctors, medical experts identifying waste and cutting its throat over the fire

help pay for Rx drugs for olds - reducing inefficiency in medicare, medicaid will pay for MOST OF THIS PLAN

finally (finally!) - reps have long insisted on readjusting medical malpractice laws (because it helps the rich doctors stop being less rich doctors) - people booing and I'm not sure why? Awaiting "Grow up, fuckos" from POTUS

put patient safety first, let doctors focus on practising medicine - HHS Sibelius is moving forward on this today. Well not today because it's fucking 9 p.m. Tomorrow. Well, it's thursday ... next monday.

will cost less than both wars, less than the tax cuts on the rich. Suck it. Most of these costs will be paid for by money that is already in the existing health care system - greater security, not higher taxes - if we can slow the cost growth by 1/10 % per year - reduce the deficit by $4trn

serious set of proposals, I will listen - will not waste time with those who want to kill this shit for POLITICS. And you fucking should not, sir!

STatus quo is not the solution - if we keep it the same, everything will go into a pile of shit and Newt Gingrich will bathe in it

Reading of Ted Kennedy's letter - what we face is above all a moral issue - fundamental principles of social(IST) justice and the character of our country.

healthy scepticism of gov't - Kennedy's liberalism was a passion for big gov't - those who knew him (dems?) knew what drove him was something more - Orrin Hatch knows that! McCain knows that! McCain looks like an actual zombie btw. Chuck "I'm No Nail" Grassley knows that!

Hard work and responsibility should be rewarded by security and fair play - sometimes government has to help that shit along, yo

History lesson on Medicare now - John Kerry is twitchy and has RLS.

"Sceptical that Gov't is looking out for them" Why shouldn't they be, if you stay alive, you can pay more taxes to the gov't! Cyclical!

And it ... is ... over!

Nothign interesting in the rebuttal. I was editing because I'm DONE.